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terrorist attack of monday which seems like almost a month or perhaps even years ago. now with all of the events of the last 24 hours unfolding. let's take a moment to recap on what has happened since yesterday afternoon when the fbi released new images of the two suspects in the boston marathon terrorist attack. released by the fbi just 74 hours after the deadly explosions rocked copley square -- >> today we enlist the public's help to identify the two suspects. >> in the hours that followed tips came pouring in. around 10:00 in another part of boston blocks from the famed massachusetts institute of technology, a convenience store was robbed. it's less than two miles from the marathon finish line. also around that time a startling discovery. the body of an m.i.t. police officer shot multiple times found in his vehicle on campus.
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he was 26-year-old sean collier, a rookie cop whose chief said he was born to be a police officer. as police zero in reports come of an area carjacking, mercedes suv is snatched with a passenger still inside. the passenger was miraculously released by the carjackers half an hour later at a cambridge gas station. police now know who they are looking for -- brothers dzhokhar tsarnaev and tamerlan tsarnaev. the siblings age 19 and 26 now lead police on a bomb littered chase to nearby watertown, massachusetts. >> during the course of that pursuit several explosive devices were discharged from the car at the police officers. >> reporter: around 1:00 a.m. friday a massive law enforcement descent upon the suburb. >> this is my home and it's scary to think of your home as, like, a war zone. >> soon the streets echo with chaos as officers and their targets engage in the dramatic firefight. one resident tweeted this photo of a bullet hole blown through the wall calendar in his home.
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>> do not answer your door unless it is an identified police officer. other watertown residents are awakened by blasts. >> gunshots and then boom, boom, like three big bangs. it looks like they're working their way this way and this way over here. >> before dawn suspect number one is killed. police say the young man with olympic boxing aspirations was wearing explosives and triggers. at 4:19 a.m. police announce his younger sibling dzhokhar is desperately on the run. >> what we're looking for right now is a suspect consistent with the description of suspect number two, the white-capped individual. >> clearly, there is concern that he is wired with explosives. as day breaks all of boston is shut down. mass transit at a standstill. the city's universities and public schools closed. officials tell all residents to stay in their homes. >> that applies here in
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watertown where we are right now. also cambridge, waltham, newton, belmont, and at this point all of boston. all of boston. >> as more than 9,000 law enforcement officers zero in on an alleged killer at large. today family and friends of the tsarnaev brothers have been reacting with shock and shame. within the past hour we heard from the father of the suspects who told russian media his sons were framed. >> translator: someone framed them. i don't know who exactly did it, but someone did. and being cowards, they shot the boy dead. there are cops like this. >> we're also hearing from the suspects' u.s. relatives, an uncle who lives in maryland, saying the oldest of the two brothers called him last night and asked for forgiveness. the cd i court sessions where i had to prove innocence
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of people. so do that the same. give me evidence. all he showed me, circled face of a man's face in a hat. >> offering a conspiracy theory that boggles the imagination the aunt said the photographs that put her nephews at the scenes of the bombings were staged. our national correspondent deborah feyerick is in the boston suburb of watertown where there is an enormous police presence. i'm also joined by cnn national security analyst juliette kymmet. deborah, give us the latest from watertown from the last few minutes. >> reporter: there is still a lot of activity. what we can tell you is that 20 minutes ago i got an alert on my iphone as a matter of fact that read the shelter is still in effect and does not prevent employees from returning home. that was an official alert on my iphone which is not from the watertown or even the
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massachusetts area but that alert popped up and then just moments after that the car that was described in a lookout, a green civic with the license plate that matched, was taken from the scene here. we just saw two trucks also brought into play. it has been relatively quiet but as you can hear just above me there is now another helicopter, another police helicopter circling the area. we can tell you we received new video of the older brother taken off of a youtube site. he is in his car sort of making fun and making faces and this is the first time we're seeing this video. he is there and sort of just goofing around. we are learning from intelligence sources is they believe he was the ring leader in all of this. he is 26. his younger brother, 19 years old. we are told that the older brother trained in -- i'm sorry -- i should say was in
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russia from january, 2012, to july of 2012. he returned back to the united states flagg through jfk and new york. also what we're learning is we were able to access a -- the equivalent of a facebook page for the younger brother for dzhokhar. he is the one in hiding. you have to realize what intelligence analysts are dealing with right now. you've got a young man who is potentially hurt, very frightened, has witnessed the death of his brother, and right now he is all alone. if he is monitoring anything on the internet which we believe that he is, then he is seeing family members, some of whom are saying -- sorry -- heard a little pop there -- some of whom are saying this can't possibly be them. they can't be the ones responsible. then an uncle saying, just condemning them, condemning their behavior. when you look at this page and this is what is so interesting, when you look at the side that says send gift there are multiple versions. so in one example, send gift,
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what you've got is three groups of tnt followed by a brick then another send gift. you've got a sun and three cop cars. can't read into anything but the last one is a green rabbit followed by tnt, sticks of dynamite, a cop car, and then a skull. so what analysts are seeing as they look into that, all of these are being looked at closely, jake. >> all right. deb feyerick in watertown, stay safe. we'll come back later in the program. i want to bring in our cnn security analyst and former department of homeland security official. one thing that is so remarkable. downtown boston which on a normal friday would be full of commerce and traffic and people, the streets are eerily abandoned. there is a real military presence here. it's spooky in a way. and what you and i were talking about before, one of the things that is so remarkable is this is all voluntary. >> all voluntary.
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just to make clear what i think the shelter in place order is about -- >> it means stay in your homes. >> right. this is what governor patrick talked about. not only is it voluntary. people are just doing this because they know it is a serious deal but what it has done is limited public safety resources to just folk ouns this hunt. so there aren't car accidents, people having voluntary surgeries. everyone is at home, keeping the resources free for this hunt. so it isn't -- this is something we explained to our kids, right? it isn't that they're unsafe if they go outside because someone might get them. it is really to relieve the pressure on public safety because they have one focus only. that is what is remarkable. because it is voluntary i think people are listening. >> before he became the center of a frantic man hunt dzhokhar tsarnaev was by all accounts a normal 19-year-old who was once the captain of his high school wrestling team in cambridge, massachusetts. his former wrestling coach joins me now on the phone. peter, thanks.
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i can only imagine your shock at hearing this news. tell me about the dzhokhar you knew. >> okay. the dzhokhar i knew seemed to be like a normal american kid. on our wrestling team we have 28 kids, 14 born in foreign countries. he was just like one of the numbered, regular kids at the high school. he was dedicated, intelligence, smart. he was funny. well liked. we made him captain of the team. >> it's difficult to reconcile the individual you describe and other friends of his from high school with the man accused of sociopathic, terrorist activities. did you see in any way, any signs of the kind of hatred necessary to commit these senseless acts of terror? anything at all? >> i would say that i haven't seen any. i want to say this as a coach who's been coaching for over 20 years, usually when there is a kid with anger management
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problems or something that slams somebody to the mat, they say they want to hurt the kid, somebody gets hurt, he says i'm happy i did that. dzhokhar was just a nice kid. so something must have happened since he left high school maybe in the last year that changed his whole personality. because there was no sign of that. we have 2200 in our high school, all different types. and he really didn't seem to fit any of those negative categories. >> coach, your son ran the marathon i believe, so it must be especially haunting, the idea that this former student of yours whom you coached could have potentially, and thank goodness he didn't, but could have potentially hurt your son. do you have any anger for dzhokhar? do you not believe the charges the way some members of his family seem to be in denial? >> no, no. i believe it. and i have seen the pictures. i feel like this morning when i saw his picture like a knife went through my heart.
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because i've run 12 boston marathons. my other son has run five and this son was running his first. he was right, like 0.5 miles away when the bomb went off. i was two blocks away from the finish line. so it just really got me that one of our wrestlers, who we coach, we mentored, we loved as part of our family could have killed us but then he did kill other people. so it's hard for me to think about the pain in my life when people don't have legs and limbs and a child lost --. >> coach, before i let you go, it's possible that dzhokhar is watching this right now. what do you want to say to him if he is watching? >> i would say, dzhokhar, this is coach payack. there has been enough death, destruction. please turn yourself in. please. >> all right, coach payack, thank you so much. we'll come back to you later.
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we really appreciate your time. >> okay. you're welcome. >> a city at a standstill. streets empty. people locked inside their homes. locking themselves inside their homes. how exactly did law enforcement shut down boston and the surrounding areas so quickly? we'll show you the unprecedented tactics being used to try to catch the remaining suspect on the loose. we know 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev attended a local university. when was he last seen on campus? our chris lawrence is there and will give us the latest on the man hunt when we come back. ♪
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i've seen him. if i've seen him around since graduating i haven't really acknowledged the fact it was him. since graduating ridge i lost touch with him and a lot of other friends i had at the school. we all kind of went our separate ways. toriie martinez, former classmate, were you scared when they evacuated parts of your neighborhood? what was that feeling when that happened? >> it wasn't really afraid, just in shock. i mean, kind of something straight out of hollywood. wasn't really expecting it to happen to you. everyone says it. when it finally happens, it's kind of unreal. fortunately for me, i wasn't evacuated from my home. i can't imagine what it was like for everyone on norfolk street to, you know, be forced out of
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their homes while, you know, the police, fbi was doing their investigation. >> torrie martinez is a classmate and wrestled on the same wrestling team that dzhokhar tsarnaev wrestled on. let me ask you a question. there's been a lot of speculation that, perhaps, it was his older brother who radicalized him or played a role in it. did dzhokhar ever talk about his older brother? >> not to me. and, as far as i can see, there weren't really many people who were close to his older brother or really even knew his older brother. i talked to dzhokhar on occasion. we were, you know, pretty good acquaintances. we wrestled together. we took the bus from the same bus stop. i never really got too close to him to get to know him, you know, all that much on a personal level like other
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students. i don't think he ever really mentioned his brother to me or many of the other students, though i could be wrong. >> last question for you. is there anything that you remember about dzhokhar, anything at all, that would make you think he was capable of what he is being accused of, the horrific terrorist activities, the murder of at least four individuals, anything at all that you remember from your time with him? >> i hate to sound so cliche', but no. not at all. he came off like, you know, any other high school kid. i mean, you're going to hear it from me and everybody else today. over the next few months, the next few years. and that's the scary part. you can't really predict this kind of thing anymore. for all you know, for all anybody else knows, you know, any one of their friends could
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be capable, you know, caught in the next terrorist attack in boston, new york, any other major city in the country. >> that's a horrifying thought. torrie martinez, thank you so much. as we reported the city of boston is on a self-imposed lockdown as police search for the fugitive suspected in the boston terrorist attacks. we now know 15 police officers received minor injuries in the shootout last night. the suspects were allegedly involved in that. the officers have since been discharged. i want to get to steven mcalpin who witnessed the shootout overnight in watertown. what did you see? >> yeah. we were in our bed. we just finished watching tv. it was 12:40 at night. as we were just laying there we could hear these loud popping noises. we thought at first it was like fireworks and i looked at my wife and i was like, why are there fireworks? you know, it just kept going and got louder and louder.
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pop, pop, pop. we looked out the window and she saw, you know, like an orange flash. we just started hearing more noises and she's like, steven, you need to call 911. so we got on the ground and called 911 and they told us that, you know, a car chase connected with the gun fight, you know, and in that moment we just got down and started crawling from the bedroom into the kitchen and as we were doing that, you know, we could see down the hallway there was like a loud explosion, noise, just glass shattering. and, you know, my wife and i and our dog just crawled from our bedroom across the kitchen and got underneath the kitchen table and kept hearing gunshots. just on all sides, really. our car was hit, the front of
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our home was hit with bullets. we had bullets coming through -- a bullet come through the side of our home and hit our tv and that stopped the bullet from coming into the living room where we then, you know, just started hearing yelling as well, which we think was the police officers. but under the table there's like another explosion. and we were just, i mean, we were terrified. you know, in that moment for us i think it was -- it became very real to us and we were in a very serious situation where we could die. you know, you never want to experience that in your home. you know, i'm a 26-year-old guy but i was terrified. i was shaking. and, you know, i'm there with my wife and i just had my arms around her and i just looked at her and i knew that, you know, i couldn't protect her.
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there was nothing i could do. but, you i just told her, emily, i love you. i'm so glad we're here. i'm going to pray for us. we just started praying and i thanked god just for the life that he'd given us together. you know, all the while this stuff is going on and we just said, jesus, please help us. please save us from this. and deliver us. we need your grace, god. please save us. and i think for us in that moment there's a kind of terrifying situation going on and we're powerless to do anything. we're just laying, you know, laying there on the ground and more screaming, more shooting, and you know, at that point i think we just, we moved into the bathrooms because we didn't know what was going to happen. we didn't know if there were going to be more explosions, you
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know, guns fired from other sides and so, you know, we got in the bath tub just the three of us with our dog and and camped out in there. and eventually the police came by and knocked on the door and showed us what had happened. the bullet that had come through our wall and into our home, just the other damage that had been done. the shells that were lying around. they showed us the -- any told us about a bullet that had gone through to our upstairs neighbor's wall as well and right through their two little children's bedroom. you know, it's terrifying to hear about something like that, but for us, like i think the hope that we found through prayer and trusting jesus in this dark time has been something that's sustained us. it's just been kind of a nonstop stressful and overwhelming situation to be a part of. >> well, stephen, we're glad that you and your wife are all
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right and stay safe, please, stephen mcalpin thank you for your time. i want to bring in bill galvin. what is the fbi's part in this manhunt? it seems to be a team effort going on here. >> it is a team effort, jake. the entire law enforcement contingent for the jttf, joint terrorism task force, they work together, they practice together. the part of the law enforcement effort going on now, though, is really the kind of effort the police, local police are better at. they do it all the time. >> you see buses of local police officers going to watertown and other parts of the city. >> they do these things all the time and are very good at it. while the bureau will augment it with the s.w.a.t. teams and things of that nature they do a great job working together and it's going to be a very difficult task. my concern is whether or not this young man, the 19-year-old, took maybe a couple rounds, a
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lot of bullets into that car and into his brother. i don't see how he escaped with having none. and i just wonder if he is going to nest someplace and that would be a concern of mine. >> i have to say i've been covering the story, this most immediate story since 1:00 in the morning. are you surprised at all that they have not found dzhokhar yet? i have to confess i am a little bit. after all, his older brother, who seemingly was the mastermind and the leader of this plot according to those who knew them and described their relationship, he's dead. he was killed early, early this morning. somehow the younger brother at least as far as we know right now has eluded capture. does that surprise you at all? >> it does. you know, with the amount of law enforcement people that are out on the street, the grid that they have is huge. it's going to take a long time to do it but it is surprising nobody has seen him run into a back yard or into any place where they could get their hands on or there's been some lecture about it. it is surprising. >> as i followed the story and
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as those of us who have been up all night followed the story, we've seen the request for people to stay in their homes spread. it started out just in watertown which is roughly eight miles that way from about northwest of boston and it just stayed there. originally it was just in that area. people stay in their homes, don't answer your doors unless it is an identified police officer. then it spread to other neighborhoods. waltham, cambridge, now we're told the entire metropolitan area of boston should stay in their homes, shelter in place it's called. it is not always for the same reason, right? people in boston are told to stay in their homes not because they're necessarily in any threat but just to kind of keep them out of the way of any resources. people in watertown, they actually might be in danger. >> you're right. there are two different reasons for having people stay at home and you're absolutely right. the people of walt -- watertown might be in danger where somebody in downtown boston isn't. but if you get everybody out looking at these situations, being in the neighborhood, it just impedes the police
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progress. they can do it a lot faster if they don't have to ask people to move out of the way and gently prod them out of the way. you know? >> stay here for one second. i want to go to jim acosta who has breaking news having to do with the social media presence of at least one of the suspects. are you there? what have you learned? >> reporter: well, jake, as you know our staff has been going through the tweets that have been sent out from what appears to be the twitter account for dzhokhar tsarnaev. let's just put up this tweet onscreen if we have it. this is what was posted on this account back on august 10th of 2012, quote, boston marathon isn't a good place to smoke tho. that's the end of the quote. there you can see the twitter account on screen. we don't know much more about that. the broader context of this conversation is not known. but as we've been reporting all day there have been a number of tweets from this account that have raised some interest. one that was posted just in the hours after the bombing in
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boston on monday that said something along the lines of ain't no love in the heart of the city. stay safe, people. then two days later, i'm a stress free kind of guy. so obviously the social media behavior and activity of this suspect is becoming a big part of the conversational though this tweet about the boston marathon back on august 10th of 2012 we don't know the larger context of that at this point. but it is a reference to the marathon so it is something that i'm sure investigators will be looking at, jake. >> thank you so much. bill gavin, it might mean nothing. it might be significant. i would imagine that law enforcement as they try to find dzhokhar tsarnaev, they're looking at everything. could one of those things -- this is -- we have no idea but could that be a signal, a message to somebody? >> it could be a message. it could be just him and his rantings and ravings. it could be just his ego. boston ain't no place to smoke,
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you know. you just can't tell. people do strange things and this is absolutely one of the strangest i've seen. random bombing at the world trade center in '93, and this is strange. i've never seen a manhunt like this so intense and so prolonged in my career. >> it's remarkable. thanks so much for joining us. i want to bring in congressman peter king republican from new york a member of the house homeland security committee and the former chairman of the house homeland security committee and also chairman of the house subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence. congressman, do you have any new information indicating these two suspects are part of some broader threat to the united states? we've been told by a u.s. official there is no indication necessarily this is part of any larger threat from al qaeda. have you learned anything that contradicts that or anything new? >> jake, so far there is no indication of that. i know there is a concern about it because there is a question whether these two on their own could have done all that's been done but the fact is right now there is no evidence at all.
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i know there is some concern about the fact that his older brother took the trip to russia last year and there is a question whether maybe that's when they were radicalized. to be honest with you in all the years i've been doing homeland security briefings i've never heard of the chechen community in the united states having been radicalized. the question was on radicalization, it does not involve the chechen community here. i know they fought alongside al qaeda in afghanistan but not here in this country. again, i think we do have to look carefully to make sure there are no other coconspirators or accomplices and find out what happened on the trip to russia last year. >> congressman, do you have any information about possible travel outside the country by dzhokhar? we know about his older brother traveling to russia in 2012. do you know anything about any other travel by the older brother or any travel outside the country by the man that authorities are looking for so intensely right now? >> jake, i'm not aware of any of that travel and i don't know of anyone who is on to that. i know that is one thing we
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looked at carefully. my understanding is as of now there is no evidence that the younger brother has traveled outside the country at all. >> obviously events are unfolding and not everything on the internet is necessarily accurate but on the older brother's purported youtube account, we don't know if we're 100% sure it is his but on what is believed to be his youtube account he posted a preaching by a radical named fez mohamed i believe was his name. what do unabout this radical cleric? >> i'm not aware of that radical cleric but i do know the idea of radical clerics in the muslim kmunlt, again, a small percentage, but they have had a disproportionate influence and that has to be looked at. we can't be politically correct. we have to see if radicalization has extended into the chechen community. obviously something happened to
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these two and it is something that has to be really examined and examined fully. also i think we have to realize that, you know, earlier in the week there was talk, there was no intel, no chatter, no evidence or indication that this attack was going to come. and i guess because we rely on foreign intel. the fact is i think it is very typical for al qaeda to carry out attacks from overseas. we have to be very concerned about radical movements in this country, in this community, in this country that carry out the attacks as we saw in new york in 2009 and 2010 by people living in the community. that's why i think it is important for the police to build up their intelligence to find out what's happening in the communities among disaffected people or people like these two brothers who seemed to have everything going for them. >> lastly, congressman king, i am told you compared what happened here in boston to what happened in mumbai. please explain. >> i was saying that i -- my
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speculation is i don't think these two ever intended to escape. i think they had so many explosives, they had explosives for the marathon and with them today. you don't have the second round of explosives unless you are going to carry out a second wave of attacks. when they went out today i don't think it was to escape. they had so much explosives in the vehicle, heavy duty weapons. i think they were going to go down fighting, just go and again almost random use of explosives. this was not just a one off as far as attacking the marathoners as bad as that was. they had apparently quite a few other explosives with them which to me could only be used for the second round of attacks. >> all right. congressman peter king of new york, republican. former chairman of the house homeland security committee thank you for your time. police are still going door to door in watertown. more on the manhunt for the boston bombing subjects coming up next. ♪
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welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage of the crisis in boston. the streets here are eerily empty save for the heavy presence of police who are hunting down a fugitive suspected in the bombings at the boston marathon on monday. we also know that police in new jersey are searching the apartment where the sister of dzhokhar tsarnaev reportedly lives. they're recovering items from that home. dzhokhar tsarnaev of course is the 19-year-old suspect still on the loose. we've learned on august 10th of last year he tweeted this phrase "boston marathon isn't a good place to smoke tho" in response to another user. we don't have more context or know if it is even relevant. he did tweet about the boston
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marathon. his older brother 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was shot dead by police overnight. we now know that 15 police officers received minor injuries in the shootout. those officers have since been discharged. a source briefed on the ongoing investigation tells cnn authorities have recovered a pressure cooker bomb like those believed to have been used in the marathon. much of the police activity in the last several hours has focused on watertown, massachusetts where our own don lemon brings us this report. >> reporter: okay. this is what happens. this is up close to one of those door-to-door searches. you see the police officers here in full gear. what they do is either go to the front of the house, knock on the door, pan over to the right here and you see one of the residents. look over to the right. there is a resident right there, the lady in the tan shirt and also the gentleman, knocked on their door. and then back here if you go around here they have been going into -- walk this way -- into people's yards and into their
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garages. they have been -- they opened the garage. they go in. they do a complete search. the police are asking us to move back a little bit to stay on the sidewalks so we do exactly what they say. you see there is about maybe ten, 12 police officers in full tactical gear here. and then also on the other side of the house, this house over here, going into that garage. police officer moving another reporter back from one of the foreign stations. that is exactly what happens. every single door in this neighborhood, every single home really in this town, within a 20-block area, radius that they have blocked off, is going to get this type of treatment with police dogs. those are the k-9 units right there. you see them with their military style rifles drawn, wearing helmets, wearing the vests, and that's what they're doing. then further back here, you see there is a police line. they move the line back when
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they search a particular area. the secure line comes back. and each area they search they open up so that either residents or members of the media can get closer and closer. once they do search out the particular area and particular homes. again, look at this. here they're going into this yard. they've already searched the garage. now they're going into the back yard presumably into the house and all residents can do is comply. can you imagine living in these neighborhoods and having to have your house be opened up to the police officers if they're wanting to come in, but most people here want to comply and that's how it works. >> the city on lockdown and the frantic search for the suspect. don lemon thank you. tom foreman joins us to map this out in boston. explain how the authorities have been able to systematically shut down the town in hopes of finding this one guy dzhokhar
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tsarnaev. >> this is really unprecedented. i haven't seen anything like this. if you think about the hunt what they've done is shut down an entire metropolitan area more than 4 million people in an effort to contain these folks. it all began with that shootout last night with the m.i.t. police officer where he was tragically killed. when that was done, this is what authorities knew. they knew that these people were still in the area. a short time later in the next gun fight they also knew this one had been killed. so what did they have left now? now they knew who their other suspect was and they knew that he stayed around here. that he lived around here. so they took action and this really is unprecedented. the first thing they did was asked about 600 or 300,000 people in six different communities to lock their doors, to seal up, not open their doors. they shut down this part of town. shortly after that they went beyond that and focused on the watertown area and really said,
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we're going to keep any cars from coming in and going out. so you can see which way it is headed here. they're trying to isolate that suspect in the area. boy, did they go further than that. it was quite extraordinary. they had taxi cabs and buses and subways stopped throughout the city to cut off any way in which he might flee. there are 5500 taxi drivers, all of the public transit shut down. they asked businesses to shut down. they said, close your doors. we don't want to give them any place to go in these areas. it kept on going. schools shut down. more than 130 schools. dozens of universities like harvard and m.i.t. and tufs and boston college shut down around town. beyond that, then, train service was cut down. they even cut back the air space overhead, increased security out at the airport, and you can see if you look right now what's happening here. see that red area? that red area is being
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surrounded by this net of obstacles, things to keep him from going on the run. they're enclosing, basically, everything that he knows in his world and hoping he is still in there. jake? >> all right. tom foreman, thank you so much. he is still on the loose and every hour we're learning more about the 19-year-old suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev. next we'll hear an interview with his mother. that's coming up next. ld alwayse to my rescue. but as time passed, i started to notice max just wasn't himself. and i knew he'd feel better if he lost a little weight. so i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. i just fed the recommended amount... and they both loved the taste. after a few months max's "special powers" returned... and i got my hero back. purina cat chow healthy weight. ♪
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if there was anyone who would know it would be me. he would never -- he would never hide it from me. he would tell me that. but never, never ever a word. my youngest one was raised actually from eight years in america. and my oldest son, he is like -- really proper in our house. nobody talked about terrorism. and my son tamerlan got involved in the religion, you know, religious politics five years ago, so he never, never told me that he would be like on the side of jihad. he was counseled by fbi for three, five years. they knew what my son was doing.
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they knew what actions. how could this happen? how could they -- they were following every step of him and they're telling today this is a terrorist act. >> that is the mother of the suspects in the boston marathon terrorist attacks. dzhokhar tsarnaev and tamerlan tsarnaev. she was pleading she did not believe the charges against them. we also have confirmed the suspects' father was questioned by russian security forces but he has been released. i want to bring back congressman peter king for his reaction to this. congressman king, obviously parents like to believe the best about their children. is there anything that the mother said that surprises you? >> well, i don't find any of it to be true, and i think it would be better. again, it must be traumatic for the mother and the father but, again, to be saying the fbi set them up or the fbi controlled them, is just absolutely wrong. it's really offensive. here's a country that gave them sanctuary and asylum, the united states, and to turn against the
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country like this is bad enough what their sons did but for the parents to attack the country to me is wrong. i also wonder about his father who in fact is in russia for medical conditions, and boston has the best hospitals in the world, to go back to russia, but for the two of them to be lashing out at the united states, listen, i don't blame them for saying good things about their sons even though they're murderers but at least that would be your parents' compassion but to be lashing out at the united states after what the united states did for them and the opportunities the united states gave to their sons is really going much too far. i just find it really wrong. >> congressman king, the mother seemed to be suggesting that the fbi knew about her sons before this week. do you know anything about what she is talking about? were they on the radar of law enforcement in any way? >> no. i'm not aware of that at all. i have not heard that. it's always possible somebody could be on a list somewhere but i am not aware of that.
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i can assure you that there is absolutely no issue of control, no issue of -- in any way the fbi knowing this was going to happen or happened. so even, again, i see no basis at all, you know, in what she is saying. none whatsoever. >> all right. congressman peter king, thank you so much for your reaction. >> thank you. >> to the reaction from the parents of the suspects. we're now hearing there will be a press conference at 5:30 p.m. eastern with the latest on this investigation. we will of course bring that to you live. we're going to be right back after these messages. ♪
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his older brother tamerlan tsarnaev was killed in a shootout in watertown, massachusetts last night. his parents and his brother's parent claiming their children were set up despite mounting evidence against their sons. police in new jersey are also at this time searching the apartment where the sister of dzhokhar tsarnaev reportedly lives, removing items from that home. we've learned on august 10th of last year he tweeted a phrase about the boston marathon. it may not have any relevance to this investigation but it was in response to another user. we don't have more context. of course it is interesting that the suspect in the boston marathon terrorist attacks would mention the boston marathon a year ago. his older brother as i mentioned, tamerlan tsarnaev, was killed in a shootout with police overnight. we now know that 15 police officers received minor injuries in the shootout and have since been discharged. a source briefed on the ongoing investigation tells cnn authorities have recovered a pressure cooker bomb like those believed to have been used in
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the marathon. kind, intelligent, friendly, and accepting. those words don't seem to fit the profile of a suspected terrorist but that's how friends and family members have been describing the younger of the tsarnaev brothers. cnn analyst tom fuentes and fran townsend are live in washington. does any of what we know about these suspects gel with how the fbi may have profiled the marathon bombers before they had a name or a face? they are uniformly, all the descriptions of dzhokhar are positive. >> well, that's true. the descriptions have been positive from classmates and friends but they may not have seen the other side of him, the jeky jekyll/hyde aspect of his personality. they also comment on and say they don't know the older brother. that would also mean they are unaware of the hold, you know, pressure, intimidation that the older brother would have over the younger. so that's the other aspect of
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this is that if his older brother is intimidating him, pressuring him, persuading him to go along with this and he goes ahead and does it, you know, his other friends may be completely unaware of that side of his personality. >> tom, you're a former assistant director of the fbi. are you surprised that at this hour the law enforcement have apparently not been able to locate dzhokhar tsarnaev? i assumed having been covering the story since the wee small hours of the morning the older brother was killed roughly at 4:00 a.m.? i assumed that with the huge police dragnet 9,000 or so law enforcement officers going to the town of watertown, searching home to home, i assumed that by now there may have been more -- a greater likelihood they would have caught the older brother, at least have an idea where he is. are you surprised or is this normal? >> no i'm not surprised. i think they probably could have gotten him much earlier and then sacrificed several police officers and citizens in the process. the reason this is taking so
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long is because every one of those apartments could be booby trapped. every one of those apartments he may have conducted a home invasion and be holding hostages inside with him. again, like we've seen in the most recent case of dorner in california two months ago the hunters became the hunted last night when they assassinated the m.i.t. police officer. so there are a lot of issues where the police that are interested in public safety and their own safety, officer safety as well, that's why this has been so deliberate, taking so long when you look at the number of residences they have to clear. >> okay. tom, thank you so much. i want to go now to our own brooke baldwin in cambridge, massachusetts. brooke, you've spoken with an auto body shop owner who apparently has new information on the case. what have you learned? >> reporter: yeah, jake. what an interview it was. this entire city has really been on this hunt for the killer or killers from monday. this 19-year-old suspect walked right down the street from his
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apartment in norfolk street to this auto body shop and acted very curiously with this auto body owner saying he thought he was on drugs it was so bizarre. never seen him like this. the day after the marathon. watch this. >> tuesday i saw the youngest one, the youngest brother. he came to my shop. he was standing right there. he was working on a car and he came i would say around like 12:30, 1:00. and had a car dropping here, which was two weeks ago, and he told me the car belongs to his girlfriend. you know, he disappeared for two weeks and one tuesday he came here to see where is the car? it's in the parking lot but i haven't worked on it yet. i removed the rear bumper and the tail lights. he said i don't care. i need the car right now. i say why? you know? you know me. you know it takes time. he said, no, i need the car right now. he was biting his fingernails which he has never done before.
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>> reporter: so he was nervous. >> very nervous. i thought he was on drugs, to be honest with you, because i never seen him, you know, i know him for probably two years and never seen him acting the way he was acting. >> reporter: did he appear injured at all? >> no, no. he was -- nice dressed, had another friend, you know, he had a pair of shoes, you know, which cost like $900 and a friend of mine asking him where did you buy the shoes? how much did you pay? he said i paid 900, which was louis vitton, whatever it is. he said give me the key. i said the car is in the parking lot but there is no tail light. he said i don't care. i'm going to take the car the way it is because my friend, she wants the car back. >> reporter: was he here -- we're just feet from where he was? >> i was working on a car here, putting a car together, and he came, you know, and he goes in a circle first, you know, he bite his fingernails which i thought was strange. i say, this kid's on drugs. and after he, you know, wanted
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the key. got to take the car right now. i said okay. and i gave him the key and he left. >> reporter: was he here alone or with someone? >> alone. he lives right across the street. that's why he always used to come here. you know, to see the cars, bring froends repair the cars. >> reporter: what kind of car was it? a nice car? >> it was a mercedes, probably a 2007 mercedes, wagon, station wagon, which is a nice car. you know, worth a lot of money. all of his friends, they say they're from turkey, they go to m.i.t., they own new cars all the young kids. they bring in brand new cars, talking about high end cars, range rovers and porsches and b.m.w.s and which is nothing new. boston is a college town. some kids come from overseas. they have the money to afford to buy new cars. >> reporter: has he always had the kind of money to afford $900 sneakers? >> i mean, as far as i know, you. he always dreamed of buying new
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cars but i don't think he could afford to buy a new car though. he always, you know, riding with his friends which they own, you know, expensive cars but himself i don't think he could afford it. >> reporter: so obviously, jake, i followed up then if he had all this money and these nice cars why would he and his brother go rob a 7-eleven here in cambridge? you know, junior really couldn't answer that. clearly, after now talking to the fbi because they came to junior, junior immediately recognized this 19-year-old once he saw that surveillance photo from the 7-eleven he said, that's the guy. that's junior he started connecting the dots and realizing perhaps that is why he was acting so bizarrely just on tuesday. jake? >> all right. brooke baldwin, thank you so much. this is a city and an area on edge since the early hours of this morning we've been told and hearing about all sorts of police operations, chasing down
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leads, controlled explosions of suspicious packages throughout the city obviously, the tsarnaev brothers proficient to a degree in explosives. there has ban lot of fear and concern. bochb boston is in self-imposed lockdown with individuals told not to leave their hoechmes. the manhunt is most intense outside the city in the watertown area. i want to bring in wolf blitzer. we've covered a lot of terrorist

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